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#3635
I've been following this whole story very closely. I've been in contact with McCollum, and asked him flat out if he recognizes the satanic nature of the conspiracy. I sent him quite a lengthy message, and basically gave him the brief overview of the conspiracy from "our" perspective (temple of solomon, luciferian elite, zionism, aliens=jinn etc.) and asked him to consider the possibility. I also told him that if he is indeed a dis-info agent (because of the whole aliens and "lightworkers" philosophy he was talking about on his facebook page), that it's not too late to tell the real truth, and Allah is Most Merciful, Most Forgiving.

I've yet to hear back from him, so i figure i either hit him right on the mark, and he's staying far away from me, or he is just an atheist/kufar unwilling to accept the truth. In any case....

Here's the promised follow up interview!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoB18unO7iA[/youtube]
#3699
Alright, i've watched the entire interview, and i'm afraid my suspicions were correct. Aaron talks alot in the 2nd hour about the different races of aliens. He says that there are 12 underwater bases, 10 of which humans are not allowed at. :roll:
He's given enough solid evidence to give the alien talk credibility, which is of course how good disinfo works.
He himself acknowledges that he's been "used" as recently as feb 2010, where he has time he can't account for.
So, there's two possibilities with Aaron. 1. He is still under mind control, thinking he is free (but then how is he alive and able to whistleblow, duh), and being used to further the alien lie. (he says they are helpful, wanting to save mankind, bla bla). Toward the end of the interview, Aaron says he is still alive because he is supposed to serve a special purpose, which he himself is not yet aware of, and that one of the alien races must be protecting him. He talks about how soon the veil will be lifted, per se, and humans will be able to "upgrade" their vibrational level. (which we all know is actually possesion.)
:idea: Please note! At the end of the interview, Aaron dismisses Allah with the wave of a hand, which was the #1 indicator to me, that he is being used to further the agenda of the "annunaki/lightworkers" lie.

Possibility #2. He is fully aware of his role as a disinfo agent, and needs to get DEALT WITH AND OR EXPOSED.

Now, Aaron and I are "friends" of facebook, which for the time being is his only website, until he gets his www going, so im able to keep an eye on his activities and the things he's telling people. He's got about 3500 people following him on facebook, so his ability to infiltrate and plant disinfo is very good. Be sure, i am keeping a close eye on him.

In any case, there were some names, dates places he mentions in the video that ive jotted down for anyone who wants to look into the info he's giving:

Legal name: Aaron McCollum D.O.B: sept 6th 1978 at Keiser Hospital Fontana California
Rank: Petty officer 2nd class U.S. Coast Guard
Covert Operation info:
Project Seagate serial number (assigned to Aaron as I.D) 13-03957
Military bases or covert locations mentioned vaguely:
Camp Pendleton Oregon, Aaron says he grew up in the desert area of eastern Oregon (ive been to the city of pendleton, and yes, there is a military base out there)
Aaron says he was taken to a location near Fort Lewis Washington State, which was in the area of a Dow Chemical Plant.
Vancouver British Columbia- "Operation Spy Glass"
Naval Weapons Munition Base- San Fransisco Bay, CA
PROJECT SEAGATE- Off the west coast of Puerto Rico an underwater base called "ProSea", with satellite locations off St.Croix (name sounded like "Guader Island") and St. Thomas (sounded like "Binby Island"
Another location mentioned was Catalina Island (California)
UFO Technology mentioned was a craft called the TR3B Black Triangle, the newer model of it is called Aurora. This craft he claims can be disguised as a regular airplane, and are common in the San Fransisco Bay. The S.F airport is located right near the bay itself (ive been there a few times).


Brothers and sisters, i hope i am not the only one paying attention to this man. From the sound of things, he is headed in the direction of claiming to be a prophet, or some sort of light being himself.

WE NEED TO BE WATCHING AARON MCCOLLUM VERY CLOSELY He is gaining a very large following, and his physical appearance may lead people to assume he is totally sincere, because "Oh, CIA agents dont have tattoos and style like that" :lol: Oh, sheople... so naive!! Allah help us all see the reality of things ameen.
#3713
Further evidence of McCollum as a disinfo agent:

This is one of many "notes" on Aaron's facebook page:
Message from an Andromedan

Sunday, April 11, 2010 at 5:46pm
I received this today and felt it was important to share. Please take the time to read this and share it with others. Thank you. -Aaron



You are not alone, even though you may be feeling that you are. We are sensing the energy of each and every human of your planet. We see the fear based reactions of some. We see the love based action of others. We see the points of light where those of you who are aware of the larger picture are moving forward to create a new and better life for yourselves and others. We are with you even thought you do not see us in materialized form.

Those who are feeling alone should reach out to others to see if they can find someone of like mind. Do not be shy about expressing your feelings, your insights about the current situation; you may find like-minded friends in the most improbable places, friends who are just as shy about speaking out, as are you.

Now is the time for everyone on your planet to let it be known that they will no longer tolerate current conditions. It is important to take a stand and let it be known. Yes, there are circumstances where it is not appropriate to let your inner most thoughts out to the public, but mostly it is shyness and fear of being thought strange that compels you to be silent. Now is the time to take a risk with your fellowman to see if you can find like-minded people with whom you can share this journey.

Over the next few months, there will be many changes. Over the next few months you will see a crumbling of the structures of mankind, structures created to control you. You will also see earth changes. How you reach out to others will determine the course of your future life on this planet and elsewhere. How you lead your life during this period of turmoil will test whether you are truly love-based or fear-based.

Each of you incarnated into this lifetime on Earth because you wished to be present at this moment. Those who do not wish to be here are already leaving – the true numbers of those dying is being hidden from you. There was a great demand among many billions of souls to be present on Earth for her transition. You are here because you wish to be here. Now how are you going to conduct yourself?

As you walk the daily routine of your life, be aware that millions of your brothers and sisters from far off planets wait to be with you — those of us in orbit are coming soon; there are trillions of others who remain on distant planets. However our moment of appearing will have to be at the correct instant, the right conjunction of events. Time is not a consideration; the timing of events is what counts for us those of us in the higher dimensions.

If you wish to see us more clearly then remove yourself from the constraints of your 3rd dimension. Leave material things behind. Leave structures behind. Leave your dependence behind.

So now, if you are not feeling so alone, then perhaps you will find more courage to speak out about who you really are. We have been teaching you that you are each an incredible being who has donned a costume to partake in the great drama of Earth’s transition. This drama is unique in that you are both the actor and the director of the play. You are writing your script, and acting out your drama each and every day. The same is true for the billions of others on your planet. Each of them also is an incredible being who chose to be part of the drama. See them as your brothers and sisters in the costume of their choosing. Then reach out to them, speak to them in terms that they will understand, tell them who you are and what you foresee. You have been given the light of knowing; share it with all. Do it appropriately; do not attempt to force your views on anyone, but do it. If you successfully connect with only one or two others, think how wonderful that will be.

If you reach out to some and they reject you as crazy, then allow them to be who they wish to be at this moment. You cannot force anyone to be part of the script in your play. All is an individual choice. All you can do is to reach out, reach out and connect. We are observing you, we are walking beside you, and we are holding your hand as you attempt this courageous way to live.

There are many of your space brothers and sisters walking in the material plane of your world. They too have donned human costumes. There are many more of us who are present in form you cannot detect. We are beside you each moment. We are supporting you as you tread this difficult path. You are not alone.

Fear has entered the psyches of many. Fear stemming from the small changes they see. Fear from the revelations of misdeeds by those they had previously respected, fear of the unknown that lies ahead.

Overcome this fear by understanding the larger picture. Overcome this fear by knowing that we are with you, that we support you during this time of Earth’s transition.

Reach within to find strength to overcome the fear. Reach within, for that is the only lasting source of strength. Find quiet moments when you can get in touch with the small voice within each and every human of earth. Many have ignored the voice for so long that it has become weak. Listen to your soul and find peace within yourself.

The pace of life is accelerating as time collapses. Do you find yourself wondering where the week has gone, where the day has gone? Do you find yourself accomplishing less in a given amount of time? It is not your imagination, not the result of aging. Time is shrinking. This is the result of Earth accelerating herself to a higher frequency, and the true cause of global warming. This speeding of your lives will accelerate even more over the next months.

The collapse of time, along with the changes and revelations will become so extreme that many will be unable to cope with life. How do you choose to live from this moment forward? Do you choose to accelerate your psyches to flow with the new ways of being? Or do you resist the changes being thrust upon you? The choice is yours.

We are with you to mentor you about existence at a higher frequency. We are with you to show you how to restructure your civilization. Make your choice, and then accept our assistance. We who are already at these higher frequencies wish to guide and mentor you. Leave behind the things of the old paradigm. Make the decision to join with us as citizens of the cosmos. We come in love. Will you return that gesture? Our hands are out to you; will you extend your hand to us?

I am Bren-Ton of Andromeda. I wish you love as you tread the path of your transition.
#3714
:lol: :lol: I can just imagine how much fun these guys had dreaming this stuff up. (this is another note of aaron's)

Intergalactic Races
AGHARIANS
A group of Asiatic or Nordic humans who, sources claim, discovered a vast system of caverns below the region of the Gobi desert and surrounding areas thousands of years ago, and have since established a thriving kingdom within, one which has been interacting with other-planetary systems up until current times.

ALPHA-DRACONIANS
Reptilian beings who are said to have established colonies in Alpha Draconis. Like all reptilians, these claim to have originated on Terra thousands of years ago, a fact that they use to 'justify' their attempt to re-take the earth for their own. They are apparently a major part of a planned 'invasion' which is eventually turning from covert infiltration mode to overt invasion mode as the "window of opportunity" (the time span before International human society becomes an interplanetary and interstellar power) slowly begins to close. They are attempting to keep the "window" open by suppressing advanced technology from the masses, which would lead to eventual Terran colonization of other planets by Earth and an eventual solution to the population, pollution, food and other environmental problems. Being that Terrans have an inbred "warrior" instinct the Draconians DO NOT want them/us to attain interstellar capabilities and therefore become a threat to their imperialistic agendas .

ALTAIRIANS
Alleged Reptilian inhabitants of the Altair stellar system in the constellation Aquila, in collaboration with a smaller Nordic human element and a collaborative Grey and Terran military presence. Headquarters of a collective known as the "Corporate", which maintains ties with the Ashtar and Draconian collectives (Draconian).

AMPHIBIANS
Similar to the Saurians or Reptiloids, yet being hominoid creatures with reptilian AS WELL AS amphibian-like features and are semi-aquatic in nature. May have once lived on land, yet became more aquatic over the centuries. 'They' have been encountered near swampy regions, rivers, etc., and have been known to attack people without being provoked. It is interesting that some types of Greys AND Reptiloids are believed to be semi-aquatic, having webbed fingers and toes (Draconian).

ANAKIM
Referred to in ancient Hebrew tradition, this race is allegedly tied-in with a branch of ancient humans who broke-off from mainstream humanity because of their vast size which had developed over the centuries, possibly as a result of a genetic anomaly. They are said to range anywhere from 9-11 ft. and in some cases even 12 ft. in height, although in configuration they are remarkably similar to 'International' humans. Are said to possess a means of molecular condensing and expansion which allows some of their kind to mingle among humans on the surface. They have allegedly been encountered in deep and extensive cavern systems below the western part of North America, as far north as Alaska, as far south as Mexico, and as far east as Texas. They are believed to have interstellar traveling capabilities

ANDROMEDANS
The Andromedan Council has ordered all extraterrestrial presences on the planet, in the planet, and on the moon to be completely out of our space. They want everything that's ET, benevolent or not, off the planet. This will be very interesting since there are over 1,833 reptilians living in our planet and over 18,000 grays living underground and on the moon. The council would like to see how we will live with each other when we are not being manipulated by ETs, as we have been for the last 5,723 years

ANUNNAKI
According to later Babylonian myth, the Anunnaki were the children of Anu and Ki, brother and sister gods, themselves the children of Anshar and Kishar (Skypivot and Earthpivot, the Celestial poles). Anshar and Kishar were the children of Lahm and Lahmu ("the muddy ones"), names given to the gatekeepers of the Abzu temple at Eridu, the site at which the creation was thought to have occurred. The head of the Anunnaki council was the Great Anu, (rather than being just a sky god, Anu in Sumerian actually means "sky"), of Uruk and the other members were his offspring. His place was taken by Enlil, (En=lord, lil=wind,air), who at some time was thought to have separated heaven and earth. This resulted in an ongoing dispute between Enlil of Nippur and his half brother Enki of Eridu regarding the legitimacy of Enlil's assumption of leadership. Enki, (En=lord, Ki=Earth), in addition to being the God of fresh water, was also God of wisdom and magic, regarded by some as an alchemist. When the Igigi went on strike and refused to continue to work maintaining the universe, on the Shappatu (Hebrew: שבת, Eng: Shabbath) Enki created humankind to assume responsibility for the tasks the Gods no longer performed. The Anunnaki were the High Council of the Gods, and Anu's companions. They were distributed through the Earth and the Underworld. The best known of them were Asaru, Asarualim, Asarualimnunna, Asaruludu, En-Ki (Ea for the Akkadians), Namru, Namtillaku and Tutu.


ANTARCTICAN
This is allegedly a secret area of operations for both human and reptilian beings. It is said by some that Aryan-Nazi scientists actually developed disk-shaped aircraft capable of very advanced aerial performance, and that swastika's have been seen on a few aerial disks. They may be piloted by a 'pure-bred' blond, blue-eyed Aryan race. There appears to be more than one 'Blond' human society involved in the UFO scenarios, and especially subterranean human societies may have developed 'blond' hair due to lack of sunlight. There does not seem to be anything more than a peripheral connection between the Antarcticans, the Telosian and the Pleiadean 'blondes' (i.e. we will refer to the Antarcticans as the 'Aryans'; the Telosians as the 'Blondes'; and the Pleiadeans as the 'Nordics' in order to discourage confusion). The Antarcticans may consist largely of 'batch consigned' pure- bred blue-eyed, blond Aryans who became victims of Hitler's obsession to create a super race, and as suggested by Harbinson and others most of these may be controlled through mind manipulation and implants, being 'human drones' who are used to keep this hidden society functioning. A massive joint humanoid-reptiloid underground system called the "New Berlin" is said to lie below the mountains of Neu Schwabenland, Antarctica. It is said by some sources that this joint human-alien force has spread terror through this sector of the galaxy, conquering and committing untold atrocities against the peaceful inhabitants of other worlds. The famous abductee Barney Hill who along with his wife Betty was abducted by "Zeta Reticulan Greys" in 1961, stated under regressive hypnosis that he had encountered an evil-eyed "German Nazi" working with the Greys on board the craft. It is claimed that the original "treaty" with the Greys was established by the Bavarian Thule and Illuminati societies as early as 1933, and this collaboration was brought into America via the CIA, which was established with the help of American Nazi fifth column agents as well as European Nazi's who were brought into America through Project Paperclip and other operations.

ARCTURIANS
Arcturus is one of the most advanced civilizations in our entire galaxy.

ATLANS
These are humans, usually described as being benevolent by comparison to other groups, who are said to inhabit vast and complex cavern-cities beneath southern Brazil and surrounding regions. The term 'Atlantean' or 'Atlan' in reference to these races, has been placed upon them because of the fact that these cavern networks along the east coast of Brazil were reportedly once a part of the antediluvian 'Atlantean' empire. The present inhabitants have no direct GENETIC relation to the ancient 'Atlantean' society which is said to have controlled these cavern systems several millennia ago, but are referred to as 'Atlanteans' simply because they are descendants of those who re-discovered and inhabited the ancient Atlan installations. As in North America and other continents, both common and gnome-like humans have been encountered here, some of which possessed advanced aerial or 'disk' technology. The Telosians claim to have some connections with South America, especially the Matto Grosso region where a sister city named POSID exists in a large cavern system underground.

BERNARIANS
Inhabitants of the 'Bernard's Star' system. Although not much has been written about them, it seems that human beings at least in part control this star system, along with "The Orange". Whether the Saurians have any influence or not is uncertain , however some sources indicate a possible collaboration similar to that within our own SOL system.

BOOTEANS
Reptilians from the 'Bootes' system. These, AND reptilian entities from the 'Draconis' system are allegedly involved with the 'Dulce' scenario as well as the infiltration- implantation-control of human society on earth in anticipation of their planned takeover at some point in the future (Draconian).

BURROWERS
Another mutation of the saurian or serpent race that is capable of burrowing through the earth. Possibly quadrupedal as well as be-pedal, these have been known to use their natural 'boring' abilities to create artificial tunnels like moles, or even spontaneously produced 'cave-ins' (the latter has allegedly been used in attempts to entrap or kill unsuspecting intruders into the underground domains). These may possess a highly- developed 'bio-sensing' system.

BUTTAHS
Being that dwells in spiritual darkness. The person may be intellectually developed. The Buttah are normally associated with nightmares, abductions and the taking of small children. They usually come around at night. The Grey aliens who do abductions falls into this category. The Reptilians are also part of this group. They are usually not very physically attractive. Apparently long ago there was a visitation long ago by Buttahs called Wacshashas who were negative, powerful, aggressive beings.

CETIANS - (or Tau Cetians)
A human race of 'Mediterranean' or 'South American' appearing, tan-skinned humans. Very similar to Caucasian humans on Terra except for SLIGHT differences (slightly pointed ears, higher physical 'density' for their size, slightly broader nose, 5' 5" tall on average, and often wear short 'Roman' or 'crew' style haircuts). Tau Ceti and Epsilon Eridani are said to be a major 'convergence' of exterran 'human' activity, and are said to be in alliance with the Pleiadeans (who in turn, according to contactees, have 'Federated' alliances with the Vegans, the Ummites, and others.). The Cetian alliance with the Pleiadeans and 'other' societies who have been 'victimized' by the 'Grey' predators is based on a desire to establish a common defense against their reptilian nemesis.

CHAMELEON
Reptilians genetically bred to enable themselves to appear 'human'. Also less-humanoid appearing Reptiloids who use a form of technosis, molecular shape-shifting and/or laser holograms to produce an outward "human" appearance. Reports of these have surface from underground joint-operational facilities near Dulce, New Mexico; Dougway, Utah; Groom Lake, Nevada; Deep Springs, California; and Fort Lewis, Washington and elsewhere. They are reportedly involved in some type of infiltration agenda. These 'infiltrators' can appear remarkably human outwardly , however at the same time retaining reptilian or neo-saurian internal organs. Often described as appearing 'bulge-eyed' with scaly, hairless skin behind their 'disguise'. One report alleged that the 'Chameleons' may utilize artificial 'lenses' to conceal "slit-pupiled iris'". Some claim they are genetically bred 'mercenaries' who are part of an advanced guard of a planned silent invasion-takeover of human society.

DINOSAUROIDS (Human Dinosaurs...Saurians)
From: The "NEVADA AERIAL RESEARCH JOURNAL" for Summer, 1989.
Re-print a UPI news item which appeared in a Berkley, California newspaper:
"Dale Russell, curator of fossil vertebrates at the National Museums of Canada in Ottawa, has developed a theory that intelligent life forms could have developed from the large reptiles that roamed the earth (in ancient times).
"Russell calls his imaginary creature a 'Dinosauroid' which would look like a hairless, green-skinned reptile with a bulging skull, luminous cat-like eyes and three-fingered hands...
"The amphibians evolved into a humanoid species that eventually developed a culture that ran its course or was destroyed in an Atlantis-like catastrophe--just after they had begun exploring extraterrestrial frontiers. Certain UFOnauts, then, may be the descendants of the survivors of that amphibian culture RETURNING from their space colony to monitor the present dominant species on the HOME planet."

DRACOS
The leader elite of the Reptilians are the 'Draco'. They even have special 'wings', which are flaps of skin, supported by long ribs. These can be folded back against the body. They are also known as the "Dragon Race" and their symbology usually includes the Winged Serpent. Also known as the Mothmen. There are elements of their species which do not have wings -- the "soldier class" of the species and 'scientists'

DRACO-BORGS
Cybernetic forms controlled by reptilian entities. These would also include those forms which are animated by fallen supernatural or Para physical entities, whether of 'gray,' 'human-like', 'mechanical' or other configuration. There are some who suggest that human-appearing 'infiltrators' of this type may exist in our society, and that certain characteristics might give them away - i.e. the eyes, a slightly sulfurous smell, unrefined features such as no fingerprints or ears or other 'body' parts which seem to have a slight 'artificial' appearance.

DRAGONWORMS
These creatures are largely subterranean and have been reported on very rare occasions. Although a mutation of the serpent race which lost the use of it's limbs through centuries of atrophication, it is nevertheless apparently a part of the reptilian 'conspiracy'. The 'Dragonworms' are reportedly very intelligent, according so certain sources. 'They' have sometimes been described as appearing similar to a giant reptilian 'worm' or 'slug'.

DROPAS
Humanoid type. Ave Height 3-4 foot. Crashed on the Sino-Tibetan Border in 10,000 B.C.
Tribe of this culture still exists today.

ELS
Giants are defined as 'Els', El Anakims, based on the mythed 'EL-der Race, tied-in with the ancient Hebrew traditions, Evadamic heritage, having a very tall stature. Nephs or Nephli. Also known as the Titans. Not to be confused with the Elohims
El ( Could be 'elite') May be from the Orion group with an outpost base inside the Planet Mars.
Some prophesize that there will come a time of a great battle between the Els and the Serpent Race and use Revelations for the reference. REVELATION 12:7: 'Now war arose in Heaven, Michael and his Angels fighting against the Dragon and his Angels...'

EVA-BORGS Cybernetic forms controlled by 'human' entities. OR humans who have been implanted or surgically altered to such an extent that they have become cybernetic in nature, yet still retaining a soul-matrix

GIZAN
The 'Gizeh People' have been referred to by the Pleiadians (Billy Meier contacts) as well as others. This 'may' have some connection with the strange 'people' and technology allegedly encountered in deep labyrinthine recesses beneath Egypt, who were sometimes reportedly seen by explorers, and who are said to dress like 'ancient Egyptians'. There is allegedly, according to Leading Edge Research, a huge cavern deep beneath Egypt which is inhabited by people with close ties with the U.S. 'secret government'. Some sources indicate that the 'Giza People' may be a 'controlled' society with the reptilians being the dominant power, although there is still much mystery as to what the "Gizeh Empire" is all about.

GRAILS
These are saurian 'grey' type entities which are apparently somewhat taller than the usually-encountered grays yet with extremely thin 'rail-like' torso and limbs yet very strong.

GREENS
Humans of 'normal' size, yet who possess an olive-green skin color. They claim to be from a subterranean or cavernous realms beneath Europe which they refer to as 'St. Martin's Land'.
hyadeans, hybrids

GRAYS (Zeta Reticulans)
This is the group of aliens who abducted Betty and Barney Hill in 1958. and these are the ones who have supposedly been doing the majority of the abductions. They are said to have no emotions and little regard for human life . The dim point of light known to us as Zeta Reticuli is actually a binary star system, and its two stars are each very much like our own yellow sun. It is not visible in the northern hemisphere. In our (Earth) sky, it is approximately equidistant between the constellation Orion and the Celestial South Pole. The constellation Reticulum is a fairly small collection of faint stars, of which zeta is barely visible to the naked eye even though it is relatively close to us at approximately 40 light years ~ right around the corner in Galactic terms. See Star Map
They 'feed' off of human and animal vital fluids by rubbing a 'liquid protein' formula on their bodies, which is then absorbed through the skin. Like typical reptiles which shed their skins the 'waste' is excreted back through the skin. The Grays range from 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 ft. tall on the average, with skin colors ranging from gray-white to grey-brown to gray-green to grey-blue. Aside from feeding off of human and animal proteins and fluids, they also allegedly feed off the 'life energy', the 'vital essence' or 'soul energy' of humans as do other reptilian species. This is why those humans seen working with the Grays (implanted and programmed 'drones', whether willingly or unwillingly) have appeared 'lifeless' and 'emotionless' to the witnesses who observed them. The Zetas or Grays live in the Constellation "Reticulum" by the Star "Zeta 2 Reticuli'. A planet was discovered there and then suddenly taken off the list!
The larger Grays apparently have some vestigial reproductive capability, and some of the hybrid species that have been cross-bred with the [taller] reptilian species have full reproductive capability. The brain capacity is estimated to be between 2500 and 3500 cc, compared to 1300 cc for the average human. Due to the cloning process, the neural matter is artificially grown brain matter, and the Grays have known technology that enables them to insert memory patterns and consciousness into clones in any manner or pattern that they wish.
The Grays consume nourishment through a process of absorption through their skin. The process, according to abductees who have witnessed it, involved spreading a biological slurry mixture that has been mixed with hydrogen peroxide [which oxygenates the slurry and eliminates bacteria] onto their skin. Waste products are then excreted back through the skin. Many abductees have noted that the Grays have a distinct series of odors...
The larger Grays have a more pronounced nose... According to some government sources, these extraterrestrial biological entities called themselves the EBAN. It is with the larger Grays that elements of the government made a series of diplomatic agreements in the 1950's, 60's and 70's...
The Grays are involved in the stockpiling of humans [including children] for use as a food source for the Reptilian species [and as a lesser food source for themselves?]...
[Alien Life Form]: Term used by the government to describe the Grays in terms of being a malevolent life form. The deal with the Grays is that their field around their body is different to ours to the point where merging of the fields ends up creating physical symptoms [the "body terror" mentioned by people like Whitley Strieber]. The field around them is in direct opposition to ours. It is an ANTI-LIFE field, as these specific species are on a devolutionary spiral. They are akin to soldiers of fortune, and 'offer' their advanced technology in trade for things they require. They are experts at manipulation of both the human body [through manipulation of the fields] and the human mind. They require blood and other biological fluids to survive. They abduct humans and animals in order to acquire these fluids. They implant small devices near the brain which potentially gives them total control and monitoring capability. These devices are very difficult to detect. The analysis of the devices by technical staff has produced a description that involves use of crystalline technology combined with molecular circuitry and these ride on the resonant emissions of the brain and the various fields of the human. Information is entrained on the brain waves. It appears that all attempts to remove the implants [1972] have resulted in the death of the human...
Various descriptions of the ALF's relate the following characteristics: Between 3 to 3 1/2 feet in height, erect standing biped, small thin build, head larger than humans, absence of auditory lobes [external], absence of body hair, large tear-shaped eyes [slanted approximately 35 degrees] which are opaque black with vertical slit pupils, arms resembling praying mantis [normal attitude] which reach to the knees, long hands with small palm, claw-like fingers [various number of digits -- often two short digits and two long, but some species have three or four fingers], tough gray skin which is reptilian in texture, small feet with four small claw-like toes, organs that are similar to human organs but have obviously developed according to a different [mutational] process; a non-functioning digestive system; two separate brains; movement is deliberate, slow and precise; alien subsistence requires that they must have human blood and other biological substances to survive.
In extreme circumstances they can subsist on other [cattle] animal fluids. Food is converted to energy by chlorophyll by a photosynthetic process [this supports results gained from autopsies at 29 Palms underground base where it was seen that their 'blood' was greenish and the tissue was black]. Waste products are secreted through the skin. The two separate brains are separated by mid-cranial lateral bone [anterior and posterior brain]. There is no apparent connection between the two. Some autopsies have revealed a crystalline network which is thought to have a function in telepathic [and other] functions which help to maintain the group-consciousness between members of the same species. Functions of group consciousness in this species does have a disadvantage in that decisions in this species come rather slowly as the matter at hand filters through the group awareness to those who must make a decision...

MORE ON THE GRAYS
The Grays are primarily situated as 4th density beings, although there are a small number that are 3rd and 6th density. To 3rd density humans they appear cold, cruel and heartless. They are, in fact, extremely curious about all aspects of existence, highly analytical and devoid of sentimentality. They can experience emotional manifestations radiated from the terrestrial 3rd density human, and use this ability generally as a mood-elevator. The Grays manipulate humans in order to create situations of conflict or extreme pain and emotion to acquire these sensations. They are, in effect, sensation junkies.
The Grays have the ability to pick out our emotions, thoughts and experiences. For them, this is the closest they can come to experiencing feeling. To those beings who have some form of ethical conduct, the Grays appear psychotic and degrading. They are masters of mind-control and mental implantation technique. Their physical attributes reflect their psychotic souls - we could easily consider them to have anti-social attributes as well as tendencies toward megalomania and schizophrenia.
They have been described by some as being absolutely mad. To make matters worse, they are performing other actions with terrestrial humans that are quite perverse.
The Grays are playing a game with us that depends heavily on maintaining a situation where humans view themselves as limited, fatalistic beings with no control over their own destiny. They continually manipulate humans

DEROS
An underground species. Some believe them to be human while others see them as non-humans. These are the beings from which comes our legends of leprachauns and trolls. Unlike the Teros, this 'little' beings are considered 'demented' and cannot be trusted. The Teros try to keep them under control and keep them from having excessive power. The Deros live in underground tunnels, cities and under the sea.

HAV-MUSUVS - (or Suvians)
Prominent in Paihute Indian tradition, the Hav-Musuvs were allegedly an Egyptian or Grecian-like sea-faring race who discovered huge caverns around 3 to 5 thousand years ago within, and later deep beneath the Panamint Mts. of California. Within these they then established their vast underground cities. When the inland sea (now Death Valley) which connected the ocean in ancient times dried up, they had no way to carry on trade with other parts of the world. As a result of this, according to Paihute Indian tradition, they began to build and fly 'silvery eagles' which became increasingly advanced as
time went on. They then evidently established interplanetary and later interstellar travel, exploration and colonization. This huge facility is now operating as a MAJOR Federation base on earth, and possesses huge chambers with differing environmental, atmospheric and even gravitational conditions to accommodate the various visiting Federation dignitaries.

HOMINS Homins" is the name given to large, human-like creatures that are reported across the world.

HU-BRID
'Hybrids' possessing reptilian and human genetic coding yet who possess a human soul-matrix.

HYADEANS
The Hyades in the constellation Taurus, like the Pleiades and Vega, are said to have been the destination of yet another group of refugees from the ancient Lyran wars.

HYBRIDS -Reptilian
Since human and reptilian beings are genetically so different in their physical make-up a natural 'hybrid' between the two is
impossible. However an unnatural GENETIC alteration, in essence 'splicing' human and reptilian genes, has allegedly been
attempted. Even if this were accomplished the offspring would not be an actual 'hybrid' (half human - half reptilian) but would fall to one side or the other. Since reptilians possess no soul-matrix as do humans but instead operate on a 'collective consciousness' level, the 'hybrid' would be human or reptilian depending on whether they/it was born with or without a soul-energy-matrix. In most cases one might tell the difference if the entity had round-pupils as opposed
to black opaque or vertical-slit pupiled eyes; or five-digit fingers as opposed to three or four; or external genitalia as opposed to none. This may not always be the rule, especially when the 'chameleons' are considered. Some of the hybrids without souls are 'fed' with human soul-energy in an attempt to engraft an already existing human soul-matrix into the hybrid.

HYBRID-GREY
The following description is of a hybrid female, approximately 15 years old. Height is five feet, three inches; skin color is pale white/grey. The head is slightly larger and rounder than normal. Hair is dark, high above the forehead and worn in a long ponytail. The face is very fine featured and attractive. Method of communication is telepathic. They consider themselves human, not Grey, in almost all respects. They care about the Grays, as any child would a parent, but find them boring. The desire for human contact is great. Their capacity for emotion is as great, if not greater than, humans. Their intellectual capacity is well above human standards Very likely to except the capabilities of both races.

HUMAN TYPE ALIENS
HUMAN TYPE A: These are of a genetic base similar to humans of earth. They appear of "normal" height (5-6ft?) and tend to be fair-skinned with blonde hair. These entities have been abducted by the grays or are the offspring of abductees and have been trained by the grays as servants. These entities are totally subservient to the grays.
HUMAN TYPE B: These are aliens of similar genetics to earth humans and also, it seems, of the humans that serve the grays. These are from the Pleiades and are also of the blonde, fair-skinned appearance. This type is of a genuine highly evolved, spiritual, benevolent variety and have a kinship toward humans and are the only aliens to be truly trusted by earth humans at this time. They had at one time offered to be of assistance to earth leaders in dealing with the alien situation here but were rebuffed and so have taken a kind of "hands off" approach for the time being. These aliens are supposedly the forefather race of humankind. These are apparently not on earth much at this time due to serious problems in the area of their home.
HUMAN TYPE C: Very little is known about these. They are supposedly another of the highly evolved, spiritual type of great benevolence to earth humans. I understand that their appearance is similar to other human-type aliens. They are from Sirius and don't appear to be much involved with earth happenings at this time other than being concerned about the Grey scenario. They could desire to be of help to humans.
There are other known human type aliens of this "more highly spiritually evolved" nature that are apparently aware of the situation on earth and considering some possible course of action. These are from Arcturus and Vega.
The following article appeared in the summer 1993 edition (vol. 3 no. 2) issue of UFO Universe magazine.
[GROUP A] Non Earth-Born Humans
This GROUP consists of three peoples from three distinct colony zones, namely Sirius, Pleiades and Orion. Genetically, they are nearly identical to Earth-born humans with the following exceptions. Abductees refer to these beings as the talls. Males average up to approximately seven feet in height; females, six and a half feet. They are extremely fine featured, pale in complexion. Eyes are almond shaped, slightly slanted with a natural black liner, much like the renderings of ancient Egyptian royalty. There are three hair colors apparently related to colony origin: blonde (Pleiades), red (Orion), and black (Sirius). The insignia of these combined human races is a triangular arrangement of three spheres. This symbol has deep significance, and is found throughout Earth history. History records these beings as goddesses, gods, Devas, etc. A subgroup of GROUP A females is in command of most Terran projects.
[GROUP B] Earth-Born Humans
These are Homo Sapiens whose origin is the planet Earth. They can be divided into two separate classes.
[Class A] (Ancient) - These humans were the companions and house servants of a GROUP A military mining and occupation force. When this force left the Earth sometime between 1,000 BC and 3,500 BC, it was decided to remove all humans that had been in close proximity with them. It was felt that leaving them would only further disrupt normal human development. Class A humans are on an equal level with GROUP A and cooperate fully in all Earth projects.
[Class M] (Modern) - These humans are working on the same cooperative level as Class A. They were taken from the Earth in modern times. During some abduction projects, twins (either identical or fraternal) are induced in a female subject. During the first trimester, one of the fetuses is removed. It is then grown to maturity by GROUP A. Abductees will meet their twins during some abductions. Very limited contact has been made by these humans.
[GROUP C] Genetically Modified Earth-Born Humans
These humans are comprised of two classes and should not be confused with GROUP D Grays.
[Class W] (Workers) - This class is the smallest in physical stature. They are described as approximately three and a half feet in height, large head and eyes, pale white in complexion. These workers were created by GROUP A through genetic modification of Earth human fetuses. Their function is to perform menial tasks requiring limited reasoning abilities. In mental capacity, they are equivalent to a five year-old child. They are incapable of violence and, in some cases, are kept as companions by GROUP A individuals.
[Class T] (Technicians) - These humans are basically the same as Class W. they are slightly larger, at approximately four and a half feet in height. Their complexion is tan or yellowish. Their reasoning and deductive abilities are higher. This allows them to perform more complex operations. They are often seen operating ship controls and in transport activities.
Both Classes W and T are telepathically camouflaged to appear as Grays to abductees. This is done to conceal the true nature of GROUP C.
It is felt that perception of GROUP A maintaining a human slave population would hinder future contact efforts.
This point will undoubtedly be a source of much heated debate in the near future.

IGUANIDS
Approximately 4-5 ft. tall, with 'Iguana-like' appearance yet 'hominoid' configuration. They have sometimes been seen wearing black, hooded 'monk' robes or cloaks which conceal much of their saurian features, which include tails. These have been reported as being extremely dangerous and hateful towards humans and lesser-ranking Reptiloids such as Greys, and like all other branches of the 'serpent' race they utilize black witchcraft, sorcery and other forms of mind control against their enemies. They appear to be a dimension-hopping sorcerer or priest class among the reptiloid species.

IKELS OR SATYRS
Small hairy humanoids with cloven hoofs which inhabit deep caverns beneath South America and elsewhere. They may be members of a fallen pre- Adamic race which possessed angelic, animal AND humanoid characteristics. Now allied with the reptilians. They have been known, according to natives, to 'kidnap' women and children down through the ages and many stories are told of South American tribes who have battled these creatures with machetes during certain of their forays to the surface in search for women, children or food.

JANOSIAN
This is allegedly a planet on which human beings live or once lived. They apparently arrived on that planet some thousands of years ago according to certain 'contactees', and had all along retained dim memories and legends concerning their ancient home world, planet earth, where their ancestors lived long before their colonization of the planet 'Janos'. They are said to be like Terrans, although somewhat oriental and slender. A group of refugees is said to have left Janos centuries ago in a huge carrier vessel of roughly donut-shaped configuration after an asteroid or meteor shower devastated the surface of their planet, causing a chain-reaction in their nuclear power grid, loosing deadly radiation into the atmosphere and unto the underground tunnels and 'cities' which they had built beneath Janos. They apparently remembered the star-route back to earth, and the latest reports stated that they were in a high orbit somewhere 'near' the earth and are seeking contact with earth governments to exchange technology for a place to live on (or below?)
the earth, in the tradition of the TV series ALIEN NATION. In light of other revelations and lack of confirmation from other 'contactees', this might be a 'staged' Draconian propaganda operation; on the other hand the account MAY be legitimate.

KORENDIAN
Humans allegedly living on a colonized planet known as 'Korender'. Perfectly 'human' in proportion yet 4-5 ft. tall on the average. Gabriel Green described alleged contacts with this group in publications during the late 1950's - early '60's. The accounts published by Gabriel Green were rather fantastic, although perhaps no less so than some other accounts. Robert Renaud is one of the main "Korendian" Contactees, and he claims that they have a large underground facility somewhere in Massachusetts. The Korendians claim alliance with the Arcturians and are part of a massive collective Alliance of worlds who lean more to non-Interventionism than to direct Interventionism.

LEVIATHANS
Sea saurian 'sea serpents' such as the so-called 'Loch Ness Monster'. Loch Ness has been the site of much occult or paranormal activity including UFO activity, 'Grey' sightings, etc. Aliester Crowlay, the Satanist-Illuminist founder of the O.T.O. or Ordo Templi Orientis, claimed to be in contact with 'The Beast' of the Loch. He owned a mansion on the shores of the loch and this same mansion later became the residence of the British occultist Jimmy Page, who not only played with the British Rock group Led Zeppelin but also owned a large bookstore dealing with witchcraft and the occult. Being aquatic in nature and having lost the use of their limbs via atrophication and mutation, this branch of the "serpent race" is allegedly used for long-range 'psychic' warfare and occult manipulation of the human race.

Light Beings/Light Workers
Listen to Mary Sutherland interview John Meloney as he describes these Light Workers, Where they are from, his and his wife's work with them as they learn how to use the human body as a tool to work on this earth plane.

LYRANS
Supposing that the human inhabitants of Lyra (who are said to have a common origin with Terran humanoids) were driven out of that system several thousand of years ago, then it is likely that some of the present day inhabitants of the 'Lyra' constellation may be of reptiloid descent. During the Lyran wars which are mentioned in several 'contactee' accounts, a mass exodus' of humans reportedly left the system and escaped to the Pleiades, the Hyades [which are 130 light-years from earth in the Taurus constellation], and to Vega which is also in Lyra. This region, like our own system, may still be a 'battleground' between saurian greys and humans.

MARTIANS
Inhabitants of the planet Mars, both human and non-human, including the alleged inhabitants of the two Martian 'moons' (which many believe to be artificially-hollowed asteroids, one of which -- phobos -- is said to be under the control of the "original" Grays, or self-reproducing Grays which are the "hosts" for the Grey "clones" which operate from various space stations that are disguised as planetoids. (It is from these"carrier" ships that the abduction, implantation, programming, mutilation, infiltration and other projects are carried out against planet earth). It has also been suggested that thousands of years ago the surface of LUNA and Mars were much more 'habitable', that the surfaces of these bodies may have been decimated after passing through the asteroid belt or an 'asteroid storm' (consisting of debris which 'may' have been torn from a planet which apparently existed between Mars and Jupiter at one time -- possibly destroyed by a close encounter with another planetary body in the tradition of Velikovsky's theories). It is believed that ancient 'ruins', possibly thousands of years old, have been seen on both 'planets' and that these attest to such a cataclysm. Refer to Reticulans

MOON-EYES
A race of peaceable humans some 7-8 ft. tall, with pale-blue skin and large 'wrap-around' eyes which are extremely sensitive to light. They MAY be the same as the large humans allegedly encountered on the moon by our 'astronauts' according to John Lear and others, who in turn were silenced and not allowed to tell what they saw. These people may, according to some accounts, be allied to the 'Nordics' and/or 'Blondes'. They claim to be descendants of Noah who traveled to the Western Hemisphere a few centuries following the deluge and discovered ancient antediluvian cavern systems and ancient technologies which had been abandoned by the antediluvians in deep subterranean recesses. They have been encountered mostly in deep cavern-systems beneath the general region of the Ozarks-Arkansas and surrounding regions. The only real evidence we have on their existence is an early report of the Cherokee Indians telling of a blue-skinned race that they encountered.

NAGAS
Also referred to as the 'Reptoids', 'Reptiloids', 'Reptons', 'Homo-saurus', 'Lizard-men', or the 'Large Nosed Grays'. They play a significant role in the legends of India and Tibet where they are considered by some to be demoniacal residents of a subterranean realm.. They are described as being around 7-8 ft. tall and of various colors, grotesque, but most often moldy greenish with scaled crocodilian 'skin'. Allegedly descended from a branch of bipedal sauroids which existed thousands of years ago on earth and via mutation and natural selection developed the brain-body coordination necessary to develop a technology. Some species still reportedly retain a visible 'tail' although much atrophied from their supposedly extinct' saurian ancestors. Some abductees claim that the "lizard" people resemble a humanoid version of a Velociraptor. After a reputed
battle in ancient times between a "pre-Scandinavian" race from the Gobi region and a Reptiloid race based in Antarctica, the reptilians allegedly lost the battle for domination of the surface world and were driven into underground networks in which they eventually developed aerial and space technology. Refer to Agharians, Tarzissians, Dracos

A) The Naga's are said to have appeared at the birth of Guatama Siddharta, who later became "Buddha".

B) The ancient "well" of Sheshna in Benares, India, is traditionally where the YOGA APHORISMS OF PATANJALI, a classical guide to students of Yoga, was written." This "well" is said to be an entrance to one of the Naga's underworld lairs.
Sherman Minton states that "Sheshna's well", an alleged opening into the underground reptilian underworld of "Patalas" [consisting of seven worlds or cavern levels], may be seen today in Benares, India, and "...It has forty steps leading down into a circular depression to a stone door covered with cobras. This is said to lead to PATALA, the reptile netherworld
legend of the Nagas, the "serpents" which live in extensive underground palaces in the rocky Himalayas. It is believed that these creatures are able to fly in space and that they possess amazing magical powers and intelligence. They are not too fond of man if he is a curiosity seeker, explorer or mountaineer. According to the sacred(?) tradition of the Hindus, the deep caverns of the Nagas contain fabulous treasures, illuminated by flashing precious stones. The subterranean abodes are known to be in certain parts of both the Himalayas and Tibet, particularly around the Lake of the Great Nagas - Lake Manosarowar."

NORDICS
Blonde, Blue-Eyed, Angular Faces. Commonly referred to as the Elohim.

ORANGE
These entities largely converge beneath southern Nevada, northern New Mexico and possibly Utah. Some sources refer to a 'human' race with stalky yellow, red or orange hair, others of a genetically-altered, humanoid-reptilian strain or hybrid. They are often described often as having a humanoid form yet certain 'reptilian' genetic features. They are also said to possess human-like reproductive organs, and possibly (or not) a human 'soul-matrix', and therefore a divergent branch of the human race, or reptilian race depending on which 'type' of Orange one is referring to. as some accounts suggest there MAY also be orange-colored reptilians which possess no soul-matrix. Refer to 'hu-breds and hybrids' Some of the "Orange" allegedly have connections to Bernard's Star. These may also be the Native American's Sitecah or Red Giants. In 1911, miners were digging out layers of bat guano from a cave located about 22 miles southwest of Lovelock, Nevada, when
they happened upon the mummified remains which would have stood 6 1/2 feet tall alive. The mummy was still crowned with 'distinctly' red hair. The ancient legends of the local PaiuteIndians described a race of red-haired giants who were the enemies of many Indian tribes of the region .

ORIONS
Some claim that 'negative' entities have been associated with some of the stars in the Orion constellation. Other sources claim that the Orion Nebula is a cosmic 'doorway' to 'infinity' or the realm of the Creator, which transcends the time-space-matter universe. Some astronomers claim that a huge, beautifully-illuminated multicolored 'light' has emerged from the "nebula" and is on an intercept-course with Earth, although at a rather leisurely pace and at this rate this 'light' or 'star' will reach earth approximately 3000 AD (give or take a hundred years). Could this have something to do with the prophecy in Revelation 21? Since the Draconians are attempting to conquer the 'heavens', they may have made futile attempts to enter the 'Eternity Gate' and intercept the emerging 'Light' ('War In Heaven' between Michael and the 'Dragon'? - see: Rev. ch. 12). This may explain the alleged presence of the Draconians in the Orion constellation, although certain 'human' groups have allegedly become curious of the 'Eternity Gate' as well. The Orion open cluster itself is the base of a joint Reptiloid - Grey empire called the Unholy Six, which has been working out of NEMESIS in an effort to sabotage the human presence in the SOL system. Many of the "planetoids" that have entered this system and have made observable "course alterations" are arriving from NEMESIS and the Orion-Draconian EMPIRE.

Pleiadeans
Pleiadian is the name given to what are said to be a group of Nordic alien extraterrestrials and "multidimensional spirit beings" from the Pleiades star cluster in the constellation of Taurus, approximately 400 light years from planet Earth. Their home planet is said to be called Erra, and various descriptions of their appearance have been given by those who claim to have been in contact with them. Contactees who claim to have been in contact with the Pleiadeans include Billy Meier and James Gilliland.
#3770
Okay, so last night I checked in on Aaron's page, and i see a post from his U.S.C.G. mate Brandon. The post says:

"Twitch, we've been reactivated for a special mission in Sanfransisco, we need dolphins, ive already got the baby balugas"

So naturally, i commented on it, saying "WTF?!? Aaron is still going on missions? Doesn't that mean he's still under MK? What kind of questions does this raise about the credibility of his statements? Why did you post this publicly? Will my comment here be deleted?"

I woke up this morning to find that the post had been deleted. I know that this Brandon is one of Aaron's mates from the Coast Guard, i saw pictures of the two of them in uniform, on a ship, on brandon's page. They had a conversation in the comments of one of the pics, about how aaron didnt remember him at all, and had only just begun re-gaining that part of his memory. This convo took place on Brandon's page, not Aaron's, and brandon isnt involoved in the "truth" movement whatsoever (openly anyway), he's just a regular coast gaurd football and budweiser type guy.

I sent Aaron a message asking him to explain, because the post notifying aaron of his reactivation was only up on his wall overnight. Despite my messages to him, and the random posts about Jinn, and Bill Cooper talking about the hoax, which aaron doesnt remove, he has yet to block me, or make any statement about the questions ive raised.

I need some help making sense of this. Is anyone paying attention?
#3792
JWPDX wrote:
I need some help making sense of this. Is anyone paying attention?


Hi.

I know we got into it a bit on the other forum on our disagreements over Iran, but I'm paying attention to this. This is part of a great deception that I have been spending a lot of time trying to make sense of lately.

One thing I'm 99% sure of is that an "alien" craft will be discovered and it will be dated to pre-historic times. The delusion part (or one of them) will be the idea that it HAD to come from distant systems and not here.

It will be a sight to see when these "aliens" do arrive and say things like, "we created you and your planet. We are like the farmer and you are the crops and cattle, our private property. It says so right here on these stone tablets you dug up in the desert. Who do you think wrote these things and gave them to you? Who built the pyramids? You are our slaves and now we return to find that you have ruined OUR garden. BOW DOWN TO BUTTHEAD."

Then I'll say , "PULL MY FINGER, LIARS"

And there are grey "aliens". I'm pretty sure they are lab creations of the nephilim (jinn, fallen ones, whatever you want to call them).

I highly reccomend this 7 hour series. Long time to spend in front of a monitor but it is well worth the 7 hours to watch. This is done by the same guy who made documentaries on the classified Iron Mountain documents and the Alternative 3 black operation. Those are also well worth the time investment IMO. Especially if you live in the USA (which I think you do).

[gvideo]1667738301360497195[/gvideo]

[gvideo]-1317413590504670736[/gvideo]

[gvideo]-7447928114159211206[/gvideo]

Or just do a google video search for UFO's gateway to hell. Sometimes google video links don't act right.
#3853
Hi SoS! Any disagreement over smaller issues we have wouldn't ever obscure the need for unity and support on the larger issues. ;) No hard feelings at all :D

Alot of the stuff McCollum talks about is accurate, the stargates on earth, the ability to travel through dimensions (though he lies about how it's done, and i've called him out on it, privately), he even talks about the soul-less beings created for use as avatars for the jinn/demons/nephilim. That's what I feel the greys are, and the proof is in the puddin' of the Montauk experiments. He says in that 2nd interview "Make no mistake, they are creating an ARMY of them" :shock:
He's gone to great lengths to "classify" the different "races" of "aliens" (lol at my quotations), it is such a huge deception, I don't understand why they bother with the detail, if they're just going to verify for us the fact that they are soul-less avatars.
I guess it's just part of the tangled web of conspiracy, the more detail they use, and more complicated they make it, the easier it is to deceive.
Another thing i wanted to mention, is that in the past 3 days, Aaron has gained about 300-350 more followers on facebook. That's the main reason i'm on this guy, he is becoming more popular by the day. :(

You've got it right about the "archeological findings" we'll see in the future, for me the question is where they will be found.
I'm betting it will be in Iraq, the area 85 miles south of Baghdad, where the ancient babylonian capital was, or it will be in Jerusalem once they've demolished AlAqsa.

I will check that video out, inshallah. If i can watch all 483 videos of TADS 1st semester, 7 hours is a breeze! And yea, I'm an American. Westsiiiiiiide! (portland). Theres some weird synchronicity with myself and McCollum, actually. We have alot of geography in common. PDX, S.F, Washington state... :?

Allah knows best. It's such a crazy world, so much deception it's hard to make heads or tails of anything. There's a Dua (a supplication) that Kamhasan recently taught me, and i think it has been helping me alot, anyone can use it, muslim or otherwise.
O Allah (God) help me to see the reality of things
repeated 3 times.
#3858
Bless you JWPDX.

We watched the 2nd interview as well. We mostly liked his commentary on dolphins. It is very reasonable.

On the deception part we can only say this, the only thing that has the power to deceive you is Allah itself. Don't even bother giving any form that power (which is delusion on its own).

The experiences described by him are his/her. Who are we to accept or reject?

It is very good that you post him about his inconsistencies. It is a great service.

Peace be with you.
#3861
JWPDX wrote:Hi SoS! Any disagreement over smaller issues we have wouldn't ever obscure the need for unity and support on the larger issues. ;) No hard feelings at all :D


Awesome, I feel the same way.


JWPDX wrote: You've got it right about the "archeological findings" we'll see in the future, for me the question is where they will be found.
I'm betting it will be in Iraq, the area 85 miles south of Baghdad, where the ancient babylonian capital was, or it will be in Jerusalem once they've demolished AlAqsa.


Iraq is a good bet. The ancient Sumerians claimed to be the ancestors of an alien race who descended from the stars. Enoch wrote that the first group of fallen watchers descended on Mount Hermon which is between Syria and Lebanon. If we have these solar flares that NASA is predicting, maybe they'll find it under some of the melted ice in Greenland or Antarctica.

Who knows for sure, but God?

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